#353 Daily Source Code for Wednesday March 15th 2006
From The Curry Condo, San Francisco, Ca.
- senseo_trucker_tom
* Butler Plug
* From Russia with love
* Podcasting in China
* Tiered Internet
* Promos
* EMail Tax
* DRM in Frnce
* PMN Stuff
* The Cube
* Equal airtime for lawyers
* Ringtone!
- tunebone-oap_ien_de_nek
Hej, Adam, where are the pics?
Adam, these ‘thanks for choosing us for Podshow’ promos are so fucking creepy. Can’t you have a word with them? I would much rather hear people who have a personality such as Madge rather than these clowns who sound like they have just swallowed a box full of sacharin.
The whole thing reminds me of the Bill Hicks ‘Send in Vanilla Ice’ sketch.
Adam, great Russia story! This is a keeper along with one you did several months back with another of your MTV friends who now lives in Portland?
Yeah, I think his name was Ken Clark! Get him back on and your Uncle Don too before he kicks the bucket.
Adam,
Please don’t forget about the PMN-jingle you promised to do!
There is a list of BBC podcasts available for those who are interested. Yes, they are mostly “just” repackaged versions of the shows they broadcast, but quite frankly I don’t care: I really like some of these shows, but quite often miss them when they are broadcast, so to have them podcast is really great news.
This week on one of the new podcast shows, Woman’s Hour, there was a disucssion about podcasting (real audio) and other net issues.
Adam, tnx from Moscow!
we love you and Vasily so much!
you know, Vasily was born in NY,USA.
it’s so funny to hear him in your podcast.
and i’ll be on that conference.
welcome to http://www.rpod.ru
Dooooozzzvidanya!
too much peptalk about PMN again – fuck PMN! – bring PDN to everybody instead for fuck’s sake!
Regarding registration emails, I have a question. Is it really appropriate to use email for that any more? “Email Tax” and spam issues aside, I think that email in general is a bit past it’s prime and will begin to phase out as newer, cleaner, and more reliable messaging systems become available.
Now, I’ve used email registrations myself for dozens of projects so please don’t think I’m coming out of left field with this. Even the BBS software I wrote (telnet/ssh/dialup BBS, not web BBS) uses it. I’m removing it from the next version of the software though.
Registration emails traditionally serve two main purposes as I see it. The first is ‘validation’ of the user. The second is to establish an “off site point of contact” so that the site or staff can reach a user without the user having to come to the site.
Validation of the user, that is proving to some degree that they are a real person (not a spam bot) and that they aren’t making fake accounts was at one point a useful function for email verification, but not has not been for a while. It is just too easy to set up dozens or even hundreds of fake email accounts and use them to ‘verify’ as many fake accounts as you like.
That leaves the “You’re not a bot” portion of the validation argument. The problem with that is that it’s so simple to make a bot that can parse registration emails that it’s ridiculous to even consider this a useful function. Anyone even halfway familiar with PERL could set that up in an hour or so without much difficulty. It’s much easier to use a well structured ‘captcha’ system on the website to prevent bot registration and checking for the referrer enables a form of captcha that is much more difficult to ‘break’ by tricking people on other websites to solve it.
The off site point of contact, while useful, is again not really that important. If you need to send a message to the user, why not simply send it to them on your site where you know it won’t get lost? Ideally the user should be taking some measure of responsibility in checking on their accounts after all.
If a site simply _must_ have a way to contact them, why not use physical mail, text messages to cell phones, or instant messenger networks? All of those can be automated as easily as email can, are more efficient, are far more difficult to miss, and are less likely to be lost to a spam filter or unethical ‘email tax filter’. This is, of course, assuming that physical mail and phone calls are not an option.
This part of my comment isn’t addressed to anyone in particular so please don’t feel that I’m singling anyone out or attacking anyone. I’m a little tired of people complaining so much about Adam talking about PMN or PDN on his show. It’s tacky. That’s exactly like someone coming to your site and saying “Don’t talk about your project on your podcast!” If you don’t like those bits, skip past them. It’s his show, he has a perfect right to talk about anything he wants and personally, I find the PMN conversations interesting. So neener.
Chill out CSB! please
Regarding the “tiered internet” I think there is a much larger stink to this than just nickel-and-diming Yahoo, Google, and Amazon, et al. Major ISPs basically fall under 2 categories, telco companies and cable companies. What’s the one thing both have in common? Media. In the case of the cable companies, they already have it (cable TV). In the case of the telcos, they want it (in order to compete with the cable companies). In either case, they are both taking a back seat these days and just watching the steady adoption of media content delivery via the internet . Apple right now currently offers music, various ABC, CBS, NBC TV shows and, if I recall correctly, some network-owned cable programming. Amazon is widely expected to jump into to the online movie business very soon and Google just launched it’s video service (albeit with a big thud) at the beginning of the year. And that’s just the beginning. If the internet marches forward in the next few years as the preferred way of getting media into homes, where does that leave the telco companies (with their big plans to get into media), and the cable companies (who, insofar as cable hookups for TV are concerned, maybe sitting on soon-to-be-obsolete technology)?
The answer is preferred packet switching. If the telcos and cable companies achieve a stronghold for the concept of a “tiered internet” by introducing the concept as an excuse to charge the Googles and Apples and Amazons a surcharge for carrying their content (regardless of speed, that’s not the real issue here), then they aren’t left out of the revenue stream in the event media content delivery really blasts-off on the internet. More worrisome is the telco/cable companies current vested interest in media. If they also shift their business model (essentially, cable TV as we know it today) to the internet, what would stop them from tweaking preferred packet switching to give their content an edge over other competing internet-based media providers?
I highly doubt the tiered internet issue is meant just to address traffic issues due to Google search queries, although for the time being I’m sure that’s what the telco/cable companies want you to think.
Regarding to the issue of confirmation emails:
All these SpamCubes and similar systems are nice, but the average user doen’t really have time or intrest to configure one. So that’s why they’re using these free e-mail accounts that do the filtering for them. Altering all the e-mail systems to support rss-feed, or something similar, seems easy, but it isn’t. There are hundreds and hundreds of e-mail softwares. Some of them haven’t been updated in years, and people are still using them. That isn’t the way the e-mail were supposed to be, I would say. I use these unix mail clients (mail and pine) very often. They are very simple command line progmrams and I cannot imagine adding rss to them. Rss isn’t a part of the e-mail. You would have to make completely new eloectonic mail system for that.
However this is just my opinion. I’m no expert on these things.
Commenting the comment by Christine on the curry.com of confirmation emails:
“If a site simply _must_ have a way to contact them, why not use physical mail, text messages to cell phones, or instant messenger networks? All of those can be automated as easily as email can, are more efficient, are far more difficult to miss, and are less likely to be lost to a spam filter or unethical ‘email tax filter’. This is, of course, assuming that physical mail and phone calls are not an option.”
That’s of course a great idea, but the e-mail is still the only way to contact people globally. You can’t assume everyone to have MSN/AOL/Skype/Jabber or whatever account. There are so many different IM protocols and softwares that this would be a complete disaster. If you’d register to this serveice you’ll need that account and to this other service you’ll need another account and so on. That wouldn’t work. And evem IM networks have spam filters, so in few years we would be in the starting point again.
The physical mail would be too slow and too expensive. I’m in Finland and just ordered a magazine from the U.S. It took me 1 month to get the confirmation mail.
F liscences. Podcasters en masse should simply do their programs and stop self-censuring. Pirate radio… thats the tradition to follow.
My wife is from Russia and she immidiately recognized Vasilys voice. Believe he was the most famous of the MTV Russian VJs back in the days. Correct me if I am wrong Arina.
You still seem to have problems with the ID3-tags on the PMN. Actually, there is a very easy automated solution to this, but it requires some code. For the Artist ID3-tag, you can use the artist name which has been provided already when he/she signed up. For the Title ID3-tag, you can use the title of the song how it appears in the PMN listings. For the Album ID3-tag is no solution, but that’s a less important tag. Now, for the interface, in my opinion the best solution is that you display the ID3-tags grabbed by the script and ask the artist if it’s correct.
I hope this will solve the ID3-tag issue. I believe that this would make it easier for artists to add the ID3-tags, and also easier to recognize a song as a listener or podcaster.
rskriver
Vasily was the most famous of the MTV Russian VJs back in the days. Correct me if I am wrong
Vasily was the most famous and the most favorite man on TV. and actually he is.
he was the voice of mtv-russia.
everyone here loves Strelnikov so much!
Hello there Adam! Big shoutout to ya from Russian podcasters! WIsh you could be there at our conference…Anyways, thx for everything, you rule man!
You mentioned the unlabel again on your show. Just had a swift google to see if anything more had been said about it, and the first link I hit was http://www.unlabel.net/
Will this cause you any problems?
Who was that russian guy with the voice…?
Troy McClure?!
Hi Adam!
Thanks for playing our allcritters podshow promo – we just got a chance to play the DSC’s and hear it.
Nope – it’s not a gopher
Robin
Hey, this is a great episode. Really great music and the talk is funny and helped me get through a really boring hour in the airport. Keep up the great work and try to have some more shows with Jasper, they are really rockin’ and very funny.
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