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Analogies of Media

Posted on Thursday 22 February 2007

Dave describes PodShow as a ‘Record industry-like advertising agency’ as a precurser to his presentation on NPR and Podcasting. From his outsiders’ view, I can understand why he describes us as such, and I’m willing to partially accept this.

After all, record companies scout talent, develop their product and market it to the
audience. The connotation is of course that the record industry is bad and old fashioned.

I’m not so sure. Without them we might not have seen or heard The Beatles, or any
multitude of fantastic music throughout the decades.

That game has of course changed with new tools and new forms of distribution.

So if we’re like a record label, then we are on par with innovative independent labels,
who are constantly banging at the status quo with new bsuiness ideas and practices and slowly chipping away at the established monoculture.

What Dave doesn’t realize yet, is that Public Radio is anything but non-commercial and non-profit. The analogy for NPR is Haliburton, a conglomeration of thousands of companies all competing to suck on the mothership’s teat.

Make no mistake, Public Radio in the US is extremely competitive and most of the the
companies that produce the programming are very much for-profit and always struggling for their own survival
It’s a political minefield and although I hope Dave achieves the connection he
envisions with their culture, but I don’t think he will be understood.

Spout


13 Comments for 'Analogies of Media'

  1.  
    February 22, 2007 | 5:56 pm
     

    I have to agree entrepreneurship within Public Radio is highly encouraged. WHYY in Philadelphia has Fresh Air and World Cafe. They don’t GIVE those away to the NPR affiliates. That’s why my so-called Public Radio station always has to ask for donations. This things are not free. Same goes for the TV affiliates, whoever owns the most shows gets to receive the biggest rewards. There’s a reason WGBH in Boston so dominates the programming on PBS, they got in early with great shows and all the affiliates paid to air NOVA, Julia Child, American Experience, Masterpiece Theater, The Victory Garden, etc.

  2.  
    February 22, 2007 | 7:03 pm
     

    Podshow is also tech company and the problem is that Podshow’s tech is not utilized to the max. Regarding Podshow being recording industry -like middleman: making new content possible is truly more important than earning money on it. I think that Dave Winer is a senile idiot with too much power in blogosphere. I also think that blogosphere would develop faster without Dave Winer and his greedy pretentious “I am doing it for community” and then selling things just to observe that all that was a lie and service deterioriated…

    So Adam, invite that senile idiot to Podshow and tickle his ego by something but don’t take seriously his shit.

  3.  
    February 22, 2007 | 7:03 pm
     

    (invite him to Podshow to speak/advice but of course no giving shares, etc)

  4.  
    Eric Talbot
    February 22, 2007 | 8:24 pm
     

    Dave is just yet another big mouth blogger know-it-all who talks all sorts of idealism from the comfort of his desk but when it comes to actually doing someting along the lines of his rhetoric, he scores a big zero.

    The world is full of people like this but most people traditionally call them “losers”.

  5.  
    February 22, 2007 | 8:41 pm
     

    *spout* ? where is respect for commenters?

  6.  
    Eric Talbot
    February 22, 2007 | 9:34 pm
     

    CSB,
    For you, the link should have been labeled “spew”.

  7.  
    February 22, 2007 | 10:39 pm
     

    fuck you too, Eric!

  8.  
    February 23, 2007 | 12:19 am
     

    Erik Likness, World Cafe is on WXPN, owned by the University of Pennslyvania. Not quite NPR but just as aggresive on the begathons.

  9.  
    February 23, 2007 | 3:56 am
     

    i was intrigued when i saw a new morning coffee notes in my aggie the other day — and listened to all of the typical dave rambling thinking that there’d be this gem buried somewhere…sometimes there is — and when there is it can be very powerful and profound

    then the fucking thing ended abruptly in the middle of a phrase

    and i thought “if this fucker can’t even get it together enough to make sure his file is complete before he uploads, them fuck him…he’s got nothing to say worth listening to”

  10.  
    February 23, 2007 | 6:41 am
     

    PodShow is one of many enterprises chipping away at the established monoculture. At a time of radical discontinuous change there will be those who look for anything resembling a life-belt, which is probably what Dave Winer is hoping to grab.

    By contrast, what marks the PodShow community is what I see as a willingness to simply dive in (I rather like this aquatic metaphor) and enjoy the excitement of discoveries in uncharted waters!

  11.  
    February 27, 2007 | 9:34 pm
     

    well, i’ll eat my words

    i listened to dave’s mcn for february 21st and there was some interesting and challenging stuff there again

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