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		<title>By: Galen Vang</title>
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		<title>By: yfgtars</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Welcome To My Blog &#187;</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Hooker</title>
		<link>http://curry.com/?p=431&#038;cpage=1#comment-161962</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the blogger vs. MSM line misses more than it shows.  In this case certainly YouTube got the video in to the American MSM, but it was Al Jazerra and not YouTube that got the video known globbaly and undermined the efforts by US State and Media to construct the execution in a way the serves US domination of Islamic civilization.

This is simple, if they suppor the war or not most Americans want to see their culture dominate or &quot;guide&quot; the Islamic world to some extent, this is the nature of the anarchy of civilizations.  The MSM first evolved in the West and therefore reflected the values of the US, UK and EU.  Japan emerged but radical cultural differences combined with close business ties ment that that the MSM in Japan and US had nothing to fight about and no shared language to fight over.

But the Saddam execution was a boundry object that was originally seen different by both cultures.  Watching Fox News, always eye opening and depressing, the night of th execution you could see how the video they had was editted and commented to construct the concept of Justice done.  Frankly most Americans had little reason to want to know that this had been a disgrace and that the name of Sadr, a man who has had hundreds of Americans killed, was chanted during the execution.  It was more than most yanks could take.

But Arab Sunnis saw the execution very different.  It is proof of US domination of thier history and Shia expansion with US weapons in to Iraq.  Al Jazerra wanted to construct something very different, a tragedy of US domination, a pharse and insult, an illegal execution which would speed up the US retreat from from Iraq.

Who was right or wrong?  There ofcourse is not final reality, only evidence, evidence is media and media can be viral.  The MSM presented its story with peices of media presented as evidence, including comments from people who were there (utter shit), Al Jazerra in this case had a video which could not exist if the US MSM and States take on the story was true.  

YouTube was secondary.  Though now Americans know that what the MSM told them was false, they really didn&#039;t care about Saddam to start with and nothing about Iraq has been changed.  If Americans still believed in the war in Iraq the video could as easily be undermined by bloggers, who would have presented endless arguements that the audio was tampered with or validations of the justice of the act.

The war in Iraq was launched based on lies despite millions of bloggers and a global internet.  

Power still uses the Internet like it uses MSM.  In this case the public has turned against the war, the execution did not work because Americans want out of Iraq.  3 years ago the YouTube video would have been seen as prooof of how just the invasion was.

Everything is read, all meaning is constructed.  Web2.0 expands the creation of media and its distribution, but does nothing in itself to change the power that governs reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the blogger vs. MSM line misses more than it shows.  In this case certainly YouTube got the video in to the American MSM, but it was Al Jazerra and not YouTube that got the video known globbaly and undermined the efforts by US State and Media to construct the execution in a way the serves US domination of Islamic civilization.</p>
<p>This is simple, if they suppor the war or not most Americans want to see their culture dominate or &#8220;guide&#8221; the Islamic world to some extent, this is the nature of the anarchy of civilizations.  The MSM first evolved in the West and therefore reflected the values of the US, UK and EU.  Japan emerged but radical cultural differences combined with close business ties ment that that the MSM in Japan and US had nothing to fight about and no shared language to fight over.</p>
<p>But the Saddam execution was a boundry object that was originally seen different by both cultures.  Watching Fox News, always eye opening and depressing, the night of th execution you could see how the video they had was editted and commented to construct the concept of Justice done.  Frankly most Americans had little reason to want to know that this had been a disgrace and that the name of Sadr, a man who has had hundreds of Americans killed, was chanted during the execution.  It was more than most yanks could take.</p>
<p>But Arab Sunnis saw the execution very different.  It is proof of US domination of thier history and Shia expansion with US weapons in to Iraq.  Al Jazerra wanted to construct something very different, a tragedy of US domination, a pharse and insult, an illegal execution which would speed up the US retreat from from Iraq.</p>
<p>Who was right or wrong?  There ofcourse is not final reality, only evidence, evidence is media and media can be viral.  The MSM presented its story with peices of media presented as evidence, including comments from people who were there (utter shit), Al Jazerra in this case had a video which could not exist if the US MSM and States take on the story was true.  </p>
<p>YouTube was secondary.  Though now Americans know that what the MSM told them was false, they really didn&#8217;t care about Saddam to start with and nothing about Iraq has been changed.  If Americans still believed in the war in Iraq the video could as easily be undermined by bloggers, who would have presented endless arguements that the audio was tampered with or validations of the justice of the act.</p>
<p>The war in Iraq was launched based on lies despite millions of bloggers and a global internet.  </p>
<p>Power still uses the Internet like it uses MSM.  In this case the public has turned against the war, the execution did not work because Americans want out of Iraq.  3 years ago the YouTube video would have been seen as prooof of how just the invasion was.</p>
<p>Everything is read, all meaning is constructed.  Web2.0 expands the creation of media and its distribution, but does nothing in itself to change the power that governs reading.</p>
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		<title>By: raymondpoort.nl / raymondpoort.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Taking control&lt;/strong&gt;


Much in my current life-flow has to do with initiative and taking control/responsibility of me, myself and I.


I see and feel it as a natural part of the development of my being, which in a way has been slowing down a bit over the last years. Not...</description>
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<p>Much in my current life-flow has to do with initiative and taking control/responsibility of me, myself and I.</p>
<p>I see and feel it as a natural part of the development of my being, which in a way has been slowing down a bit over the last years. Not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oneworld Multimedia :: Saddam Execution Video Scandal :: January :: 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oneworld Multimedia :: Saddam Execution Video Scandal :: January :: 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyway, the blogosphere is already full of posts detailing the significance of this video finding its way onto the Internet when many politicians in Washington and London in particular would have only wanted us to see the sanitized version. With the reservation that the person responsible for the video was no ordinary citizen, Adam Curry explains the significance of this thus: One last prediction as we close out 2006: The Saddam Hanging video will go down in history as the Shark Jump moment for mainstream media worldwide. The â€œpeopleâ€ get what they want to see and no bureau chief or network boss can stop us. Recorded on a cellphone by a single citizen in Iraq, seen worldwide the very next day. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anyway, the blogosphere is already full of posts detailing the significance of this video finding its way onto the Internet when many politicians in Washington and London in particular would have only wanted us to see the sanitized version. With the reservation that the person responsible for the video was no ordinary citizen, Adam Curry explains the significance of this thus: One last prediction as we close out 2006: The Saddam Hanging video will go down in history as the Shark Jump moment for mainstream media worldwide. The â€œpeopleâ€ get what they want to see and no bureau chief or network boss can stop us. Recorded on a cellphone by a single citizen in Iraq, seen worldwide the very next day. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Grote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Grote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astounded the recording made it out into the world. But, isn&#039;t most of the things like this not covered by the MSM? For instance, some of the more brutal footage from the Iraq war has come from individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astounded the recording made it out into the world. But, isn&#8217;t most of the things like this not covered by the MSM? For instance, some of the more brutal footage from the Iraq war has come from individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hooker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What many Web2.0 people fail to see is the MSM and the States power to make events.  Certainly I saw Saddam&#039;s murder on YouTube, though I could not watch it.  But it was an event constructed by the media and the state before the event, without the MSM not only would no one have known it was going to happen, no one would have known who Saddam was or cared.  The media constructs the meaning for YouTube videos as contact.

What YouTube can do is deconstruct MSM messages, and even other blogger messages.  The State wanted to turn this in to some great event, but the video deconstrcuted the execution by showing what it was, revenge by one group of tyrannts who kill American troops against another.

This is nothing new, the state used to execute people in public all the time and they were like this, during the French terror.  Only the state we live in has lost the power to control by horror, it needs the media to construct reality, and the masses need the MSM at the end of the day to provide context for short YouTube videos and blogs.

Again Web2.0 thinking is a bit too simplistic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What many Web2.0 people fail to see is the MSM and the States power to make events.  Certainly I saw Saddam&#8217;s murder on YouTube, though I could not watch it.  But it was an event constructed by the media and the state before the event, without the MSM not only would no one have known it was going to happen, no one would have known who Saddam was or cared.  The media constructs the meaning for YouTube videos as contact.</p>
<p>What YouTube can do is deconstruct MSM messages, and even other blogger messages.  The State wanted to turn this in to some great event, but the video deconstrcuted the execution by showing what it was, revenge by one group of tyrannts who kill American troops against another.</p>
<p>This is nothing new, the state used to execute people in public all the time and they were like this, during the French terror.  Only the state we live in has lost the power to control by horror, it needs the media to construct reality, and the masses need the MSM at the end of the day to provide context for short YouTube videos and blogs.</p>
<p>Again Web2.0 thinking is a bit too simplistic</p>
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		<title>By: Podcasting News &#187; Adam Curry: Mainstream Media Has Jumped The Shark</title>
		<link>http://curry.com/?p=431&#038;cpage=1#comment-159612</link>
		<dc:creator>Podcasting News &#187; Adam Curry: Mainstream Media Has Jumped The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Once of the creators of podcasting, Podshow&#8217;s Adam Curry, thinks that the controversial Saddam Hussein execution video represents a defining moment for Internet media, and a jump-the-shark moment for mainstream media: &#8220;One last prediction as we close out 2006,&#8221; notes Curr. &#8220;The Saddam Hanging video will go down in history as the Shark Jump moment for mainstream media worldwide. The &#8216;people&#8217; get what they want to see and no bureau chief or network boss can stop us. Recorded on a cellphone by a single citizen in Iraq, seen worldwide the very next day.&#8221;  Rate This Post:   Bookmarking links: &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;  Related Topics: Adam Curry, controversy, PodShow, politics Related articles: PodShow Adds Seven &quot;Hot Women&quot;, Adam Curry Speaks Up About Podshow Podcast Hijacking Controversy, Is PodShow Still Hijacking Podcasts?, PodShow Updates Site to Eliminate Podcast Hijacking; It Was a Silly Mistake, Says Adam Curry, Al Jazeera On Kim Jong-il [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Once of the creators of podcasting, Podshow&#8217;s Adam Curry, thinks that the controversial Saddam Hussein execution video represents a defining moment for Internet media, and a jump-the-shark moment for mainstream media: &#8220;One last prediction as we close out 2006,&#8221; notes Curr. &#8220;The Saddam Hanging video will go down in history as the Shark Jump moment for mainstream media worldwide. The &#8216;people&#8217; get what they want to see and no bureau chief or network boss can stop us. Recorded on a cellphone by a single citizen in Iraq, seen worldwide the very next day.&#8221;  Rate This Post:   Bookmarking links: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  Related Topics: Adam Curry, controversy, PodShow, politics Related articles: PodShow Adds Seven &#8220;Hot Women&#8221;, Adam Curry Speaks Up About Podshow Podcast Hijacking Controversy, Is PodShow Still Hijacking Podcasts?, PodShow Updates Site to Eliminate Podcast Hijacking; It Was a Silly Mistake, Says Adam Curry, Al Jazeera On Kim Jong-il [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scripting News for 1/1/2007 &#171; Scripting News Annex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scripting News for 1/1/2007 &#171; Scripting News Annex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 02:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adam Curry thinks the Saddam execution is a shark-jump moment for MSM. I don&#8217;t know that the cell phone camera guy wasn&#8217;t part of the official coverage. Maybe the Iraqi govt understands Youtube, they probably do. And Russert and Stephanopoulous had both watched the unofficial table before the Sunday morning talk shows, so MSM was definitely in the loop. Don&#8217;t count them out yet, the new channel works for all journos, not just bloggers. &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Adam Curry thinks the Saddam execution is a shark-jump moment for MSM. I don&#8217;t know that the cell phone camera guy wasn&#8217;t part of the official coverage. Maybe the Iraqi govt understands Youtube, they probably do. And Russert and Stephanopoulous had both watched the unofficial table before the Sunday morning talk shows, so MSM was definitely in the loop. Don&#8217;t count them out yet, the new channel works for all journos, not just bloggers. &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Grumet&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Grumet&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adam Curry makes a prediction. [...]</description>
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